Sunday, December 20, 2020

Unlawful martial law

There is an alarming news report of a White House meeting on Friday that included bringing up of what Michael Flynn had suggested earlier in the week that Trump could invoke martial law as part of his efforts to overturn the election that he lost to President-elect Joe Biden. The report said it wasn't clear whether Trump endorsed the idea, but others in the room forcefully pushed back and shot it down. https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/politics/trump-oval-office-meeting-special-counsel-martial-law/index.html

This alarming news report raises questions of whether a martial law that is declared by the President can be unlawful, whether such declaration can be criminally unlawful, whether there can be a criminal conspiracy to bring about a criminally unlawful declaration of martial law, whether there can be a criminal attempt to bring about a criminally unlawful declaration of martial law, and, although DOJ policy is that the President may not be indicted for a crime committed while President, whether other actors in the criminal conspiracy or the criminal attempt can be criminally indicted and prosecuted.

It seems clear that the answer to the first question is that a martial law that is declared by the President can be unlawful, and a case may be brought before a court that has an outcome that the court declares the martial law was unlawful.

In the days ahead, more attention needs to be given by the Department of Justice, U.S. attorneys and others about whether there may be a criminally unlawful declaration of martial law and criminal conspiracy or attempt about the same.

Sunday, December 13, 2020

Cong'l hearing re election integrity

Trump continues his adamancy that the election was rigged and stolen from him.

Many millions of Americans believe the election was rigged. Fox News poll shows significant number of Dems and Independents believe election was stolenHalf of Republicans say Biden won because of a 'rigged' election: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Americans need to believe their elections have integrity. If their elections don't have integrity, Americans need to know that, and steps need to be taken to correct the situation.

This is a sufficiently serious matter that there needs to be a Congressional investigation in 2021 on Presidential election integrity.

There are many possible witnesses for Congress to call to testify in the hearings. A leading witness to be called would seem to be Donald Trump.

 12/14/20

Marshall, in the above clip, says, "For the sake of the country, I hope that we will be able to resolve the questions about this year's elections, questions which are of great public importance, before election day." 

I think Marshall meant Inauguration Day.

I don't see any way for the questions to which Marshall is referring will be "resolved" before Inauguration Day. It seems certain Trump will continue to say the election was rigged and stolen.

If Marshall is serious about wanting for such questions to be resolved, the best chance will be via Congressional hearings in 2021. 

Thursday, September 24, 2020

Combating Trump rallies

Here's a tactic I propose to the Biden campaign and to Biden supporters to combat Trump rallies: 

When there is a rally, as many Biden supporters as possible should go to the rally facility or site. The Biden supporters should encircle the facility or site, using social distancing and masks. If there are enough Biden supporters, they can form multiple concentric circles around the Trump rally facility or site. Probably it would be most effective if the Biden supporters are silent, do not have signs, and are stationary. There should be three or four exit spaces in the circle of Biden supporters that surrounds the Trump rally facility or site. After the rally, as the Trump supporters leave the rally, they will see a large number of Biden supporters in a big circle surrounding the Trump supporters and staring at them. The Trump supporters can either walk through the exit spaces left in the big circle of Biden supporters, or the Trump supporters can walk out between the socially distanced Biden supporters. In either event, the Trump supporters will see a large number of Biden supporters arrayed against them and will either have to look Biden supporters in the eye or the Trump supporters will have to avert their eyes. All of the foregoing should be very effective campaign messaging for Biden-Harris and be amplified by great news coverage of the rally.

This idea was prompted by Trump's September 22nd rally at the Pittsburgh International Airport in Moon Township and the accompanying crowd pictures, such as below.



Yesterday morning, I submitted a post to the Alabama for Joe Biden Facebook page consisting of the introductory words "Here's a tactic to combat Trump rallies: " followed by the exact language in the second paragraph above plus a link to an article about the September 22nd rally, including the above photos.

My post was approved by the group administrators and it was posted on the FB page. My post received 9 likes and the below 6 comments:

I think going as undercover trump supporters would work. Just stay and play dumb like all trumpites.
Sounds like a good plan if you want to arrested or our asses kicked by rednecks.
Sounds like a recipe for those Trump supporters to start being violent!
JOE JOE JOE JOE JOE!
Sounds amusing. But there would be people yelling at you. With masks off. Spittle soaring.
And then the fights. …SeeMore
I think the smart thing is for Biden to keep on doing what he’s doing to keep his followers safe since the Coronavirus is still raging and speeding. If there wasn’t a pandemic I’d gladly attend some of Biden’s rallies if it was anywhere near my location.
 
Today I learned of Trump's rally tomorrow night in Newport News and I added a comment to my above post, saying, "Trump is having a rally tomorrow at the Newport News/Williamsburg International Airport at 9 pm, doors opening 6 pm. https://www.wtkr.com/.../president-trump-to-hold-make..."

I next proceeded to send the below tweet to the Newport News Democrats:

Next I got a notification that the FB group admininstrators had deleted the comment I had added to my post. About 20 minutes after that the administrators deleted the post itself. The explanations given were:
[explanation for deletion of post]
Group rules that were violated
1Follow Joe’s Code
We are a community that values: Compassion, Faith, Resilience, Empathy, Kindness, Humility, Joy, Respect, Inclusion, Dignity, “No Malarkey”. All posts must reflect this.
[explanation for deletion of comment (before post was deleted)]
Additional notes from the admins
We cannot promote in person events. Please visit https://joebiden.com/take-action/ to find an event or try to organize one yourself through Mobilize!

Saturday, June 6, 2020

Dear RVAT

Dear Republican Voters Against Trump (@RVAT2020 )

I am an Alabamian.

I was a Republican.

I voted for Trump.

I quickly turned against Trump.

I wish to suggest to the Republican Voters Against Trump coalition a campaign tool of organized direct tweeting to Republican voters and others.

To understand the campaign tool, please read the link Organized, direct tweeting campaign tool and look at the examples given in the link.

If this campaign tool appeals to the leadership of the Republican Voters Against Trump coalition, I would suggest that it be implemented by means of special webpages on the https://rvat.org/ website to which the tweets that are sent in the organized direct tweeting would link.

To start, I think there might a special webpage for each of the 50 states.

The special webpage for a State would invite persons who come to the webpage to join in the tweeting to other persons in the State.

I have no experience in webpage design.

The wording (and visuals) of the special webpages on the https://rvat.org/ website need to be done in a way that motivates visitors who come to the webpage to join in the tweeting.

I have attempted an anti-Trump form of this in an amateurish way at https://al6thcongdist-ihaveuntiljan13.blogspot.com/2020/05/alabamians-tweeting-mourning-in-america.html.

If the leadership of the Republican Voters Against Trump coalition decides to try out the organized direct tweeting tool and creates a special webpage on its website for Alabama, I would be pleased to initiate tweeting in Alabama.


Sunday, May 17, 2020

A wonderful 2020 election

Millions of Americans are disgusted by their politicians' lies, prevarications, distortions, deceptions, and double standards.

The voters feel their disgust most acutely during elections.  Candidates' TV ads are especially obnoxious.

During the three years of Trump, hatred and anger that the two side have for each other has been increased by divisiveness that Trump has spawned and attendant charges and counter-charges of lying, fake news, treason, criminality, corruption, evil intent, and conspiracy.

Currently Trump and Obama are at verbal war with each other.

The charges and counter-charges, and the onslaught on Americans, will ramp up to intenser levels in the run up to November.

This is sickening to most average Americans.

There may be a way the American people can combat the politicians.

With imagination the 2020 elections might be turned wonderful.

[to be continued].

5/31/20
OK, here's my idea about how to make the 2020 Presidential election wonderful.

Get Trump, Biden, Obama and other prime actors relative to the Russia investigation and the Ukraine impeachment to testify under oath to Congress.

The Dems say that Trump has been guilty of serious wrongdoing amounting to impeachable offenses.

Trump adamantly says he has done nothing wrong, and he and the GOP say the Russia investigation was a "hoax" the impeachment was a "sham", and the Dems are guilty of an illegal coup against a duly elected President..

These are extreme charges and counter-charges, they have been going on for 3 years, and they will likely intensify leading up to November.

For three years, the voters have been inundated by mountains of information and contentions from each side about why its side is right and the other side is wrong.

Most Americans cannot process what been heaped on them and most Americans don't know whom or what to believe.

This needs to be boiled down by the two sides, and presented like a court case in Congress, and Americans need to see and hear what Trump, Biden, Obama and other prime actors say to Congress under oath.

If this happens, Americans who presently don't know whom or what to believe may, should be in a much better position to decide whom and what they believe.

That could make for a wonderful 2020 Presidential election.






Saturday, May 16, 2020

Our country's dire condition

Our country is in the grips of an epochal, nationwide natural disaster.

The scale of the destruction the COVID pandemic is causing will be upwards of 50 times the most destructive natural disasters of hurricanes, tornadoes and wildfires the country has experienced before.

Such previous natural disasters were localized, and the costs of the destruction were able to be managed with the resources and wealth of the United States.

Hurricane Katrina, which is rated the costliest of the country's natural disasters, cost 166.3 billion dollars. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-expensive-natural-disasters-us-153351513.html

The total costs of  the 9/11 attacks are very much higher than Katrina and can be deemed to include things such as the costs of operating Department of Homeland Security ($408 billion for first 10 years), the cost of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq ($1.3 trillion through 2011 and a total projected cost of  wars through 2050 of $4 trillion), and there are other separate categories of costs of tens of billions of dollars each. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-cost-of-9-11-in-dollars/

The pandemic natural disaster is, in a short time frame of a few months, causing trillions of dollars of lost income to the American people.

Tens of millions of Americans, through no fault of their own, have been deprived of jobs they need to provide for themselves and their families.

Many other tens of millions of Americans, and the businesses they work in, are experiencing significant reductions in income.

The Federal government is providing trillions of dollars of funding to cover this huge lost income of the American people. The trillions of dollars are being paid and distributed to the American people in various ways.

State governments are providing funding through unemployment insurance programs.

Congress is confronting having to spend additional hundreds of billions of dollars to help state and local governments provide essential services, which governments have lost wherewithal to do, because of the pandemic natural disaster's impact on the economy and the resulting loss of tax revenues to the governments.

There is great uncertainty about when the economy will sufficiently recover so that Americans who have been impacted by the pandemic natural disaster will have jobs so they can provide for themselves and their families, and don't need further governmental funding to stay alive. In other words, more trillions of dollars of governmental funding may be needed.

All of the trillions of dollars of government funding are an imperative both for getting funds into the hands of Americans to be able to purchase food and other necessities they need to live, and also to keep the economy going by such Americans spending the funds to purchase things as they would do if they had not lost their incomes.

Currently, a main occupation of our Federal and state governments is managing the distribution of the trillions of dollars of Federal and state government funding to the American people. The distribution is being done on a necessarily rushed basis, and it is likely that much time and effort will be expended to try to "correct" "unjustified" distributions of governmental funds.

For years to come, our Federal and state governments will confront using their taxing, monetary and other powers to reduce the trillions of dollars of governmental debt that  has been and will be created in dealing with the pandemic. How the Federal and state governments do this will have large effects on businesses, workers, schools, hospitals and state and local governments, and this will result in years of political vying of competing economic interests of such persons.

In all of this, the United States is facing a national challenge probably on the scale and complexity of the challenge the country faced in fighting World War II.

The challenge calls for a unity of commitment by Americans to do what is necessary to reach the end goal, and that will entail a willingness of Americans to endure hardships and make sacrifices for the common good.

The national challenge needs a President whose leadership all Americans are willing to accept and follow.  This in turn needs the President to have the trust and confidence of the American people.

An important component of having the trust of the American people is that they believe the President is honest and inspires their loyalty because the President shows his paramount commitment to the country and them.  

Donald Trump fails the foregoing tests in the eyes of more than half the country, and it seems clear that Donald Trump is unable to do anything to change that.

The failures of Trump in the eyes of more than half the country impairs the ability of the country to succeed in getting through the nationwide natural disaster that has befallen the country.



11/24/21
The long, complicated slog to dig out of the dire condition into which the United States was plunged by COVID-19 continues.

2/26/22
In January Katie Britt tweeted "President Biden is directly responsible for the inflation crushing hardworking Alabama families." In response I tweeted the below comment:

Today I sent the below email to Dr Sutter, the author of the above article:

From: Rob Shattuck 
To: dsutter 
Sent: Sat, Feb 26, 2022 1:14 pm 
Subject: Follow up on your "Supply chains and the shortage economy"

Dear Dr. Sutter,

The GOP says the United States' supply chain and inflation problems are the fault of Biden's policies, which the GOP calls "failed" and "disastrous."

Your November 12, 2021 Alabama Today article  "Supply chains and the shortage economy" discusses why there has been a supply chain problem and that the government cannot be viewed as the cause of the problem or be looked to for solving the problem.

In May of 2020 I expressed that, as a result of COVID-19, the United States was facing a national challenge probably on the scale and complexity of the challenge the country faced in fighting World War II. I said, "For years to come our Federal and state governments will confront using their taxing, monetary and other powers to reduce the trillions of dollars of governmental debt that has been and will be created in dealing with the pandemic."  See Our country's dire condition.

After your article was published, I added to Our country's dire condition a link to your article, with my saying "The long, complicated slog to dig out of the dire condition into which the United States was plunged by COVID-19 continues."

The United States had never experienced anything like the pandemic that hit it in March 2020. No one knew what was needed to defend America and Americans against the onslaught of COVID-19 and no one knew what amount of stimulus/relief was needed to keep the economy from crashing or how the stimulus/relief could be most efficiently and effectively provided. In the mammoth governmental response that was undertaken, I think it was accepted that hundreds of billions of dollars could be ineffectively distributed or be subject to fraud, but t was also accepted that it was beyond human and legislative capabilities to fine tune the mammoth program to have notably better effectiveness and much reduced fraud, without risking not doing enough to keep the economy from crashing and providing the needed relief.

In the first half of 2021, inflation warnings about the effects of the stimulus and relief were made by Larry Summers and others. On the inflation question, I think it bears saying again that the United States was in an unprecedented situation, and no one knew how bad inflation could get or what could be done starting in mid-2021 to ward off bad inflation, taking into account what was still needed in the form of stimulus and relief to keep the United States going.

We have now learned a lot that we did not know before. We learned that a lot of relief money was saved and not spent when received, and then supported pent up demand that later got unleashed and contributed to the inflation problem. We have learned about the problems of restarting (or getting back up to speed) significant sectors of the economy, and these problems greatly contribute to the supply chain and inflation problems.

The GOP goes bonkers over Biden's policies, such as not maximizing energy production and paying people not to work, and the contribution those factors have made to the supply chain and inflation problems. Not maximizing United States energy production can be accepted to have had some effect on the supply chain and inflation problems, but the question is how much effect - negligible, substantial, quantifiable, not quantifiable. Part of the reason for this email is to solicit you, as an economist, to comment on much less would be the supply chain and inflation problems if Biden in January 2021 had taken steps to maximize United States energy production.

I think the "paying people not to work" matter is complex. All I would say on that is I think it gives little support to GOP charges of "failed" and "disastrous" policies of Joe Biden. Your view on this is also solicited by this email.

In January, Katie Britt tweeted "President Biden is directly responsible for the inflation crushing hardworking Alabama families." In response, I tweeted .  "Katie Britt: You are very deficient in your understanding of what has caused the current inflation," and included in my tweet a link to this webpage.

After I send this email to you, I will copy and paste it at the end of Our country's dire condition.

I very much hope you will respond to this email, and, if you do, I will add your response to Our country's dire condition.

Thank you very much for your attention to this email, Dr. Sutter.

Sincerely,
Rob Shattuck

7/10/22

Friday, May 8, 2020

Mourning in America censorship



In the past 24 hours Facebook censored the Mourning in America ad that The Lincoln Project put out a couple of days ago, which ad caused Trump to do midnight rage tweeting against the leadership of The Lincoln Project. Below is the censored Facebook post. Following the below censored post is the fact checking link, and following that is an email The Lincoln Project sent out.


Donald Trump’s failed presidency has left the nation weaker, sicker, and teetering on the verge of a new Great Depression.
There’s mourning in America.


eye-crossed-out
Partly False Information
Checked by independent fact-checkers

-0:40


If you click on the "See Why" button in the middle of the above image, you will receive a pop up which has a link to https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/may/07/lincoln-project/mourning-america-ad-critical-trump-misleads-bailou/?fbclid=IwAR3Ri5bz-tE9wqGrYPgYwgWy3pyEuW1r6ZX5vabGRKOqpUA3BphuBED6tj0.


Lincoln Project’s “Mourning in America” ad critical of Trump misleads on bailouts

A group called the Lincoln Project, headlined by several high-profile Republicans and former Republicans who oppose President Donald Trump, recently released an ad that turned a famous re-election ad for President Ronald Reagan on its head.
The Reagan ad, "Morning in America," is one of the most celebrated campaign ads in history. Using optimistic imagery and themes to argue that the country was on the right track after the crises of the 1970s, the ad set the tone for Reagan’s landslide reelection victory.
By contrast, the Lincoln Project’s ad, retitled "Mourning in America," is replete with depressing footage of masked Americans and economic devastation. And it directly blames Trump for acting ineffectively on the health and economic fronts. 
At one point, the ad asserts, "Trump bailed out Wall Street, but not Main Street."
Trump tweeted his displeasure with the ad, ironically producing a banner fundraising day for the Lincoln Project. 
But is the ad’s claim about bailouts accurate?
While there have been high-profile examples of larger corporations being awarded loans from a primarily small-business lending program (and sometimes giving them back), this line in the ad is inaccurate. 
Marc Goldwein, the senior vice president and senior policy director for the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, has been tracking the federal response to the coronavirus-driven economic downturn. He said the dichotomy in the ad is wrong.
The coronavirus relief legislation passed so far, Goldwein said, "generally bails out everyone."
Role of the CARES Act
We should start by noting that Trump wouldn’t be solely at fault for any design flaws in the primary law for coronavirus relief, the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security, or CARES, Act.
The $2.2 trillion act, which Trump signed into law on March 27, 2020, included stimulus payments to most Americans, enhanced unemployment aid, loans for small businesses, and other relief measures. However, before it got to Trump’s desk, the bill had the support of both parties. It passed the Senate unanimously, and it passed the House overwhelmingly.
The primary way the bill helps small companies is through the Paycheck Protection Program.
Under that program, small businesses can take out federally backed loans through banks or credit unions to tide them through the coronavirus pandemic. The government will forgive the loans if the company keeps all of their employees on the payroll for eight weeks, and as long as the money is used for payroll, rent, mortgage interest, or utilities.
The Paycheck Protection Program attracted negative media attention when some larger employers, such as Shake Shack, secured small business loans. Criticism grew as the program ran out of money allocated under the CARES Act. Congress later provided funds for additional loans.
The Shake Shack loan appears to have been legal, since the program allowed loans for businesses in the food services sector that have more than one physical location and employ less than 500 people per location. Still, the negative attention led some of these businesses, including Shake Shack, to voluntarily give back their loans.
What does the data show?
The Small Business Administration, which is overseeing the program, has produced some broad breakdowns of how the first $342 billion in loan money was spent.
For assessing the ad’s claim, the most problematic cut of the SBA data concerns the size of the loans made so far. 
The breakdown shows that slightly more than 74% of the individual loans granted were for $150,000 or less, totaling $58 billion. Because most companies apply for the maximum amount allowable, and because the loans are capped at 10 weeks of payroll costs, a loan of this size is consistent with a company that has roughly seven to 10 workers, Goldwein said. (Because the individual loan amounts in this category were small, the sum of all these loans was equal to only 17% of the total money spent.)




From: Rick Wilson, The Lincoln Project
To: Robert Shattuck
Sent: Thu, May 7, 2020 8:26 pm
Subject: URGENT: We've been Zucked

Robert, we've been Zucked: Facebook is now censoring the ad that made Trump lose his mind.

You're not going to believe this — not much shocks me these days, but even I had to see it with my own eyes.

After our latest ad, "Mourning In America," made President Orangeface short-circuit and throw a rage-tweeting tantrum at 1am, his campaign spin machine went into "damage control" mode calling us "losers" and calling the claims in the ad "false."

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Of course, we expected that. Because we know they're scared.

But now, less than 24 hours later — as if on cue — Facebook has slapped a "false" warning label on our video, telling its users to beware:

Robert, it's no secret that Facebook has stood by and done little to nothing as lie after lie — from the Liar-In-Chief himself — runs wild on their platform.

(Oh, and let's also not forget the conspiracy theories, foreign disinformation campaigns and negligence that got Mark Zuckerberg questioned by the United States Congress.)

But, this? This is an entirely different and dangerous kind of collusion.

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And what is Facebook's excuse for playing favorites with its recently-transferred former employees in the Trump campaign?

They say a "fact-checker" labeled our claim that "Donald Trump helped bailout Wall Street, not Main Street" was untrue.

....Really?

🚨 Millions of Americans are still waiting for their checks.
(USA Today, May 7)

🚨 Thousands of business owners can't get the loans they need to stay open.
(NBC News, April 27)

🚨 Multiple research reports show that only: "half of Americans say they got a stimulus payment, and only half of those say it was enough."
(Business Insider, April 29)

🚨 But Wall Street banks, hedge funds, huge corporations, and Trump's friends and donors, have cut the line and gotten millions they shouldn't have.
(Business Insider, May 1; The Washington Post, April 24)

Does that sound like "bailing out Main Street" to you, Robert?

Is that "Partly False?" Of course not.

We told the truth about Donald Trump...

He lost his damn mind over it on Twitter...

Attacked us in front of Air Force One...

Then sent his spin machine to discredit us...

And now his allies at Facebook are doing his damage control by censoring the truth he doesn't like.

So, on behalf of my compatriots at The Lincoln Project, let me be crystal clear:

We will never back down from this fight.

We will hammer him with the truth and the facts.

Donald Trump's failed Presidency has left the nation weaker, sicker, and teetering on the verge of a new Great Depression.

We're taking this fight directly to Trump and the people—and social media giants—that prop him up.

If you're with us, please pitch in what you can, right now.

Tuesday, March 24, 2020

Trump's COVID19 war plan -NOT

For days now, we have heard Mike Pence talk about a "whole of government, whole of America" approach.

Such an approach calls for a Commander-in-Chief who steps up and says, "I am the Commander-in-Chief of our "whole of government, whole of America" war against COVID19, the buck stops here, and here is my national war plan."

Trump cannot or will not step up.

3/27/2020
Think about World War II.

4/12/2020
In thinking about World War II, I thought Trump should say to the effect that his national war plan included a focus at the start on protecting for Americans their necessities for survival of food, shelter, clothing and health care.

4/19/2020
The protests that are happening around the country for Americans to get back to work bring into focus the role of the President of the United States in leading the country through the virus crisis.

There is obviously balancing to be done between protecting the lives and health of Americans and getting America back to work.

There are legitimate arguments and strong emotions pushing both ways in doing the balancing between lives and health and getting back to work.

I contend, to lead the country in this situation, the POTUS needs to accept the responsibility of being the leader. This includes (i) making decisions about how the balancing should be done, (ii) saying he is responsible for things that happen as result of his decisions,  (iii) accepting that he will get criticism of his decisions from those on both sides about where the balancing should be done, not attacking those who criticize him, instead saying he understands the criticism, and endeavoring to persuade those who criticize him that he is making the right decisions in the situation, and (iv) being willing to acknowledge when a decision turns out to be wrong, and correcting where mistakes have been.

I contend that Trump has failed and continues to fail miserably as the POTUS in being the country's leader in the virus crisis.

5/4/2020
I am trying to get Trump's leadership discussed on radio talk shows in Alabama.

Sunday, February 9, 2020

Impeachment 2.0

1. Facts
The articles of impeachment alleged abuse of power by Trump regarding Ukraine and obstruction of Congress regarding Ukraine.

In the impeachment, the Democrats were adamant that the evidence they put forth presented an overwhelming case that Trump wrongly abused his power regarding Ukraine and wrongly obstructed the Congress by covering up and preventing Congress from getting witnesses and documents that would further establish Trump's abuse of power regarding Ukraine.

Trump adamantly contended before he was acquitted that he did nothing wrong regarding Ukraine. Following his acquittal Trump has continued to contend adamantly that he did no wrong regarding Ukraine.

Some GOP Senators have said that Trump did wrong. Some GOP Senators say Trump did no wrong.

The GOP Senators voted to acquit Trump on various grounds, including that (i) Trump was denied due process, (ii) the impeachment was an impermissible partisan use of the impeachment power by the House, (iii) the House did not sufficiently prove its case and it was not the job of the Senate to do the House's job, (iv) Trump did no wrong, and (v) any wrong done by Trump did not rise to the level of an impeachable offense.

The Democrats believe that there were other impeachable offenses committed by Trump that were not in the articles of impeachment, such as acts of obstruction of justice that the Mueller investigation revealed.

The Democrats probably believe that the retaliations that Trump has embarked on following his acquittal are impeachable offenses.

2. The law
I contend, if there is a threat to the Republic, and the President and the Congress disagree about how to protect the Republic against the threat, the effect of the impeachment power is that the Congress ultimately trumps the President about what should be done to protect the Republic against the threat.

Further, if the Congress acts, through the impeachment power, to prevent the President from deciding how the Republic shall be defended against the threat, the people have the ultimate power to determine how the threat to the Republic shall be responded to by voting out of office the members of Congress who impeached and removed the President.

I discuss this contention in the blog entry Who abused their power.

In the aftermath of the acquittal of Trump, it is likely that a lot of discussion will occur about whether the GOP Senators properly fulfilled their oath to do impartial justice in the trial.

3. Impeachment 2.0
In the aftermath of the acquittal, there is much reason to think that the House Democrats will initiate a second round of impeachment proceedings against Trump.


Sunday, February 2, 2020

Who abused their power

The Dems contend that Trump abused, and will continue to abuse, his Presidential powers.

Trump and the Repubs say that the House abused its impeachment power.

This is deserving of discussion.

1. Separation of powers; Congressional oversight; DOJ
There is an obvious tension between, on the one hand, separation of powers of the Executive and Legislative branches, and, on the other hand, Congressional oversight of the Executive Branch that entails intrusion of the Congress into the Presidency.

No one says that the separation of powers provision of the constitution completely prohibits Congressional oversight, and, instead, everyone agrees that line drawing needs to be done between what is permissible in Congressional oversight and what is impermissible in Congressional oversight.

Where alleged Presidential wrongdoing is involved, that factor potentially affects the foregoing line drawing between permissible and impermissible Congressional oversight actions.

Further, in the context of an impeachment, the Dems argue that more expansive Congressional intrusion is permissible.

A further element in the case of alleged Presidential wrongdoing is the role of the Department of Justice, and it having independence, or not, in beginning and carrying out investigation of the President.

2. Sole power to impeach; sole power to try impeachment
The constitution states the grounds for impeachment as bribery, treason and other high crimes and misdemeanors.

There has been voluminous discussion of the grounds for impeachment.

The Trump impeachment, and its outcome, will embody one interpretation of what is impeachable made by the House of Representatives and another interpretation of what is impeachable made by the United States Senate.

These interpretations of what is impeachable will be presumably looked to for guidance in a future impeachment.

Such interpretations would not seem to be binding in the future, and a future House of Representative or a future United States Senate would ostensibly be at liberty to fashion different interpretations of what is impeachable under the constitution.

If such a future House and Senate should vote to impeach and convict on an interpretation of what is impeachable that is different from the interpretations in the Trump impeachment, it is doubtful that the Supreme Court would declare that said future Congress is bound by the interpretations of the current House or of the current Senate, and the Supreme Court would not declare that the impeachment and conviction made by such future Congress was invalid.

Based on how the constitution places the sole power to impeach in the House and the sole power to try the impeachment in the Senate, it is probably the case that the Supreme Court would not invalidate any impeachment and removal from office on the basis that the Supreme Court determined that the Congress incorrectly determined what is impeachable under the constitution, such is different from how the Supreme Court interprets  what is impeachable, hold that the President has not committed an impeachable offense and invalidates such impeachment and removal.

The foregoing contention basically means that an impeachable offense is whatever the House and the Senate say is an impeachable offense.

In the abundant debate about what is impeachable, there has been little express contention that  an impeachable offense is whatever the House and the Senate say is an impeachable offense. Even though there has been little express contention of the foregoing, it is doubtful that the Supreme Court would try to substitute an interpretation to restrain an alleged impermissible basis for impeachment. Rather, it is fair speculation to think the Supreme Court would say restraint must come from the House and/or the Senate, and, if those bodies arugably do not exercise proper restraint, it is up to the voters to vote out their members of Congress for failing to exercise appropriate restraint.

Impeachment is an extreme and serious remedy that a Congress should utilize with an appropriate recognition of the gravity of the matter and therefore use it with restraint. Under the foregoing analysis, it is reasonable to think that the Congress would endeavor to respect the words of the constitution and the guidance of the Founding Fathers respecting  the words "treason, bribery or other high crimes and misdemeanors."

This may or may not result in acceptable restraint, and there may be great contention about what is acceptable restraint in exercising the impeachment power.

Some may contend that the impeachment of Bill Clinton was an inappropriate exercise of the impeachment power. Voters may or may not have been affected in their voting decisions in Congressional elections following the Bill Clinton impeachment.

The Trump impeachment has been contentious in the extreme, as manifested in the angry charges by the Dems that Trump has abused his power, and the angry countercharges by the GOP that the House has abused its impeachment power.

This is accompanied by the GOP argument that impeachment abrogates the fundamental democratic right and power of the people to decide who their President is.

A good argument can be made that there can be no abuse of the Congressional powers of impeachment that is subject to any restraint or remedy through the judiciary, and rather the only remedy for any such abuse of power by Congress is for the voters to vote their members of Congress out of office.

3. Due process, etc.
A  further good argument can be made that the constitution doesn’t give Presidents any protections during impeachment. See "The Constitution Doesn’t Give Presidents Any Protections During Impeachment"

This may sound extreme, but it needs to be kept in mind that the only thing that is being taken from the  person who is President in an impeachment is the Presidential office, and there is no deprivation of life, liberty or property that that are sanctified with due process protection under the constitution.

This would extend to denying, in an impeachment proceeding, any right of the President to withhold witnesses and documents or to assert executive privilege.

The rationale for denying any protections to the President in an impeachment is, that as between which of Congress and the President has the ultimate authority and power to determine what is "right" and "necessary" for the nation, the Congress has that ultimate authority and power, and it is ultimately to be exercised through the impeachment power.

If that power is exercised, since the person who is President will not be deprived of life, liberty or property, but only of the Presidential office, all personal protections of due process, etc., must give way to the protection of national and public interest, all as determined by Congress.









[to be continued]